some questions for a730w users

[have both units]

I think we shouldn't discuss on this issue anymore. The one who wants to Know should try by their own eyes.

But the trick is don't try only a few secondS, you should try to see a full video clip about 2-3 minutes.

[s_kates81]

I don't agree.What about the guys who haven't got the unit yet?How can they test?Instead,they can just rely on the real user experience.So carry on and pass your experiences !

[Registered]

I don't agree.What about the guys who haven't got the unit yet?How can they test?

By taking any LCD and looking at it sideways? Everyone should have access to an LCD by now...

[s_kates81]

I don't agree.What about the guys who haven't got the unit yet?How can they test?

By taking any LCD and looking at it sideways? Everyone should have access to an LCD by now...

We just had a user saying that he got both loox720 and 730w,but the narrow angle symptom was not present in loox.and Loox is an LCD too.Keeping this in mind,you can't say that every LCD will be similar.

[The Pope]

Not being a LCD expert, I think LCDs are orientated in one direction. My laptop screen looks very even in the normal direction, but turn it on it's side and one side is darker than the other.
Maybe the Loox is set up with the "more even" direction being in landscape, and the less even direction in portrait, but as you don't watch movies in portrait you don't notice the effect?

[Lukas44]

I was bothered by a nagging suspision that because of the posts here, there is some truth to this, so upon further testing I have found a senario where this actually becomes almost true...!

When you have your device no more than 10 inches from your head, in a almost totally dark room(nightime)!

What makes this more noticeable than most other PDA screens (yes many other PDA screens do same), is that the Asus has a more brighter, straighter beaming light than any I know... My Asus 730w is brighter at half setting, than my Toshiba e755 at full brightness!!
Add to that that the light seems more directional, and you can get this senario...

Also, it is known that the Loox has the widest viewing angle, similar to the HP4700, so when you compare to the Asus, there will be a noticable difference...
But I still do not think it is a problem... just dont hold it so close, or have it too bright.

Also, with light off outdoors, this problem doesn't exist.

[The Blur]

Yes, buy it... yes it has it also.

[Registered_]

Not being a LCD expert, I think LCDs are orientated in one direction.

Bingo. That's what I said here.

I don't agree.What about the guys who haven't got the unit yet?How can they test?

By taking any LCD and looking at it sideways? Everyone should have access to an LCD by now...

We just had a user saying that he got both loox720 and 730w,but the narrow angle symptom was not present in loox.and Loox is an LCD too.Keeping this in mind,you can't say that every LCD will be similar.

I never said that all LCDs were similar. I just said I've access to both an X50v and an HX4700 and this "symptom" appears on both, granted it's less on the HX4700 it's still quite apparent. Now I don't have a Loox 720 but I think I'll take what that user says with a grain of salt as it's merely an opinion that discounts logical deduction.

[Lukas44]

Oh well so thats it about the screens...
By the way, has anyone tried, or knows anything about this silicone case:
http://zxpro.com/catalog/product_16703_Soft_Jacket_Set_for_Asus_A730_with_unbreakable_screen_cover_cat_474.html
thinking about getting it..

[Guest]

heh, i see this in the 4155 screen too, when switching from right-eye to left-eye. Never noticed it until you mentioned it.

[The Blur]

That's a really nice case... tell me what you think and please post sme pics if you get it.

[s_kates81]

I was bothered by a nagging suspision that because of the posts here, there is some truth to this, so upon further testing I have found a senario where this actually becomes almost true...!

When you have your device no more than 10 inches from your head, in a almost totally dark room(nightime)!

What makes this more noticeable than most other PDA screens (yes many other PDA screens do same), is that the Asus has a more brighter, straighter beaming light than any I know... My Asus 730w is brighter at half setting, than my Toshiba e755 at full brightness!!
Add to that that the light seems more directional, and you can get this senario...

Also, it is known that the Loox has the widest viewing angle, similar to the HP4700, so when you compare to the Asus, there will be a noticable difference...
But I still do not think it is a problem... just dont hold it so close, or have it too bright.

Also, with light off outdoors, this problem doesn't exist.

It does make sense.So It means that if the brightness is set at 25 % and not holding it so close,can it nearly eliminate this narrow angle symptom?Have you tried it yet?

[grantmaster]

the landscape viewing angle phenomenon is there. I can't deny that. Didn't make too much deal out of it because, well, I guessed it was meant to be used in portrait mainly. I saw it more as a technological limit rather than a design fault or poor worksmanship.

And yes, you CAN reduce the effect by holding it far away from you and fixing your head on that magical center spot. It is possible to enjoy a whole movie in that fashion. I have.

But imagine yourself laying on bed, your head on the pillow and the pda in your hand. You have to hold the pda AT a certain distance, AT a certain angle. your whole upper limb will have to work towards achieving that goal. If you bend your elbow, or if you straighten your wrist, you risk losing that position. Imagine that for the duration of a 100 min movie.

I tell you, it's quite possible to enjoy a movie before you go to sleep. You just have to figure out a way to hold the pda in the "comfortable viewing position" at a "comfortable holding position," perhaps laying sideways and letting your arm lay along the surface of the bed, and holding your pda up in 90 degrees.

The point is,

There IS a viewing angle issue, unless you have 2 vertically positioned eyes instead of horizontally positioned ones, and there IS a better viewing zone, but you know, it'd be better if the landscape viewing angle issue wasn't there at all.


(or you can always close one eye...)

[grantmaster]

Oh, and yeah. I was watching it during night.

[s_kates81]

the landscape viewing angle phenomenon is there. I can't deny that. Didn't make too much deal out of it because, well, I guessed it was meant to be used in portrait mainly. I saw it more as a technological limit rather than a design fault or poor worksmanship.

And yes, you CAN reduce the effect by holding it far away from you and fixing your head on that magical center spot. It is possible to enjoy a whole movie in that fashion. I have.

But imagine yourself laying on bed, your head on the pillow and the pda in your hand. You have to hold the pda AT a certain distance, AT a certain angle. your whole upper limb will have to work towards achieving that goal. If you bend your elbow, or if you straighten your wrist, you risk losing that position. Imagine that for the duration of a 100 min movie.

I tell you, it's quite possible to enjoy a movie before you go to sleep. You just have to figure out a way to hold the pda in the "comfortable viewing position" at a "comfortable holding position," perhaps laying sideways and letting your arm lay along the surface of the bed, and holding your pda up in 90 degrees.

The point is,

There IS a viewing angle issue, unless you have 2 vertically positioned eyes instead of horizontally positioned ones, and there IS a better viewing zone, but you know, it'd be better if the landscape viewing angle issue wasn't there at all.


(or you can always close one eye...)

That's a great feedback