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Diabetes (and the healthcare system)


Diabetes (and the healthcare system)

Postby sandmann » Jan 12, 2006 @ 3:49am

The fates lead him who will;
Him who won't, they drag.

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Postby Blade Runner » Jan 12, 2006 @ 6:18am

No, I've never seen that, I've never seen anyone drive their garbage out to the curb and bang the hell out of it with a stick. No, I've never seen that.
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Postby James S » Jan 12, 2006 @ 11:38pm

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Postby sandmann » Jan 13, 2006 @ 2:32am

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Postby Kzinti » Jan 13, 2006 @ 2:41am

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Postby Jaybot » Jan 13, 2006 @ 1:32pm

Consumption of hi-sugar foods is the problem. It's amazing how much sugar we add to everything.
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Postby David Horn » Jan 13, 2006 @ 4:51pm

I thought it was being overweight that caused it?
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Postby Blade Runner » Jan 13, 2006 @ 7:04pm

So what really causes diabetes is high sugar food?
No, I've never seen that, I've never seen anyone drive their garbage out to the curb and bang the hell out of it with a stick. No, I've never seen that.
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Postby glenthemole » Jan 13, 2006 @ 8:27pm

Well there's 2 types of diabetes, type I and type II, I think its just type II that can be caused by environmental circumastances (sp?!) and type I is heridetary.
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Postby Bluetrane » Jan 13, 2006 @ 8:57pm

universal health care <> nanny state

infact i have more choice here in Canada then someone with an HMO in the States (ie i can see any doctor i want)
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Postby David Horn » Jan 13, 2006 @ 10:42pm

We've just implemented a system in the UK where you get a choice of up to four hospitals when having treatment, although obviously in urgent situations you can get treatment anywhere.
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Postby Jaybot » Jan 14, 2006 @ 12:44am

In the US I paid like $80 a month for a PPO and never had any problem visiting any doctor I wanted. Doc visits were like a $20 co-pay and prescriptions were quite low as well.

You couldn't pay me to go to an HMO clinic. I've seen them and accompanied friends to them before... not pretty.

As far as diabetes... yeah, hereditary and anyone can cause themselves to do it to themseleves as well. Tons of peopel are on their way and getting hypoglycemia from too much sugar intake as well (which is the first step).

I wonder if you end up getting type II or whatever, if your genes then mutate and when you have offspring, it becomes genetic?
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Postby James S » Jan 14, 2006 @ 5:27am

Perhaps it's a genetic predisposition towards an high intake of sugar. Chocolate is addicting, and I'm sure the tendency towards that addiction can be passed on to the next generation through both genes and the environment, just like alcoholism is passed down.

I'm not in favor of insurance companies that don't do you any good. I believe a state led insurance or care program would entitle people to more freedom because it would be more closely regulated and more liberal in its allowances just like that piece of shit social security crap that was invented during the depression. If we're going to have that we might as well have state run insurance. It would probably be better than what we have now, which is not to say it would be good.
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Postby refractor » Jan 14, 2006 @ 7:33am

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Postby James S » Jan 14, 2006 @ 5:52pm

If I recall the root cocoa in chocolate meant, in some ancient language that I don't recall, divine food. "I read that somewhere," in pure armchair philosopher character.
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