Morphgear performance - A730W vs X50?

[grantmaster]

I was pretty sure I was gonna get A730W, and I still am. But I read some debates somewhere on this forum about hte the X50 has so much more in terms of graphic processing.

Someone mentioned the higher score of some benchmark in the a730, someone said X50 scored so much more with the tweak, then someone said that there's a tweak for the ASUS too.

I don't even want to ask what in the future for the X50 with its graphic capability, because I don't know how big the market will be for "X50 only games" for publishers to make games that'll make me regret not getting the X50.

So I want to ask you about a current software. Does X50 runs games smoother than the A730 in morphgear? expecially GBA and SNES modules? Will further tweaking of the GAPI drivers change it in favor of either one?

Thanks.

[10inchAssassin]

Well I play most snes games at 60 fps with the x50v, usually Street Fighter 2 Turbo and Mario All Stars and get 20 and up with GBA games which I haven't really played much except for advanced wars and uhhh pokemon Leaf green just had to try it out to see how the game progressed since I outgrew it . This is with the tweak.

[tomdon]

Well I play most snes games at 60 fps with the x50v, usually Street Fighter 2 Turbo and Mario All Stars and get 20 and up with GBA games which I haven't really played much except for advanced wars and uhhh pokemon Leaf green just had to try it out to see how the game progressed since I outgrew it . This is with the tweak.

I dont think you used the smiley enough in your post.

[Registered]

Well I play most snes games at 60 fps with the x50v, usually Street Fighter 2 Turbo and Mario All Stars and get 20 and up with GBA games which I haven't really played much except for advanced wars and uhhh pokemon Leaf green just had to try it out to see how the game progressed since I outgrew it . This is with the tweak.

I dont think you used the smiley enough in your post.

Lol.

I don't even want to ask what in the future for the X50 with its graphic capability, because I don't know how big the market will be for "X50 only games" for publishers to make games that'll make me regret not getting the X50.

Somehow I get the feeling you don't know what's in store for the future of PPCs. *cough* WM2005 with D3Dm and OGLES for PPCs (there'll be more than just the X50v) with 3D graphics accelerators *cough*

So I want to ask you about a current software. Does X50 runs games smoother than the A730 in morphgear? expecially GBA and SNES modules? Will further tweaking of the GAPI drivers change it in favor of either one?

Yes; yes; don't think so. Maybe a little more tweaking on the X50v's side but I think they've both pretty much reached their limits in terms of GAPI performance.

[RChickenMan]

I'd like to note that there is a slight button lag with the X50v, although it is so slight it is almost insignificant. I'm sure a bunch of people are going to start posting "No there isn't!" and stuff like that but really unless you are playing a game that you are REALLY good at and relies heavily on timming, you will not notice it. There could also be a lag on the A730w, but once again, nobody is going to come out and say it. If anything they are going to come out and say there is not, but be skeptical, it might just be as un noticeable as with the X50v.

[tomdon]

[RChickenMan]

Well it's true! Don't get me wrong, I freaking love the X50v, and its emulator performance is top-notch, I just think that the button issue needs to be brought forward.

Just to show you how insignificant the button lag is:

Donkey Kong Country Fans-
Snow barrel blast (The first level of the snow world where there are barrels that spin REALLY fast and you have to time when to shoot yourself out of them)
I was able to play this level absolutely fine and was not handicapped at all by the button lag.

Mario 3 Fans-
World 5, level... 7 I think it is... (The one in world 5 where you have to jump on those floating guys with the wings)
Once again, my performance was not handicapped by the button lag and I was able to beat this level.

If you are neither a Donkey Kong Country or Mario 3 fan, well then, what the hell do you care? You just suck.

[tomdon]

I find it hard to believe there is button lag. I for one have played donkey kong country and loads of mario games on the X50, all without any lag. Not one person has posted on any other forum I vist including aximsite with this problem.

Therefore you are imagining things, or your unit is defective in some way...

[RChickenMan]

When I first noticed it I searched the AximSite forums and one of the first people who got and and tested out emulator performance did mention the button lag.

EDIT:

http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthre ... Button+Lag

[tomdon]

That was very early on in the X50. Well before the new version of morphgear that makes use of the gapi tweak.

As I said I dont have a problem with lag, and I have not seen any recent posts about it.

[RChickenMan]

The new versions of MorphGear have slower SNES modules, which is why I still use 2.1.0.0. ANY GAPI based program makes use of the GAPI tweak... In fact, with the newer version, you have to do that hack which makes in hi-res un-aware, which you do not have to do with older versions.

[spiral]

The X50v will probably be faster mainly because it has a faster processor.

[Registered_]

Oh yeah, RChickenMan, I meant to tell you in a earlier thread you posted: The "button lag" you appear to be experiencing is due to either a slow frame rate (how many FPS does it show inside the brackets?) or an older version of Morphgear with problems (2.1.0.0 is very old...).

I have played many GAPI games and also many SNES and Genesis games without sound (running at 30+ FPS) and can tell you there is not a hint of button lag. It plays as smooth as my younger sister's gameboy.

However, when I do enable sound in Morphgear and start getting 12-20FPS I do notice "actual lag" which can be confused as "button lag".

[RChickenMan]

No, it certainly is not due to a lower framerate, because I got a bit lower framerate on my h4155 and there was no button lag what so ever. You may be right about the older version of MorphGear, however this still wouldn't solve the fact that there is a slight lag in PocketNester as well, and it is my experience that button timming is more important in NES games than in SNES.

[grantmaster]

Hmm... so X50 runs it faster...

but then X50 has a faster processor...

Has anyone seen how morphgear runs on an overclocked A730?