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Postby James S » Feb 8, 2003 @ 2:16am

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Postby Robotbeat » Feb 8, 2003 @ 4:20am

Well, I have taken apart a few Pocket PCs in my day, and I have been reading about this stuff for a long time, so I can knowledgeably comment on this.

I have thought about doing pretty hardcore-type mods before, but I haven't done much except overclock my friend's em500 and replace his touchscreen, my e115's touchscreen, and attempt to fix my iPAQ's touchscreen (a wire had gotten loose from it, still can fix it, though). But anyways...

There are plenty of things you can do and have been done or are pretty obviously possible. Different units have different capabilities, so I will use a couple examples. Let's take things that you can do with the e740 and things that have been done with the iPAQ and probably can be done with other PPCs. First, we will install a frickin' stereo audio-in jack (I don't know if that's easy to do with the Toshiba's audio chip, but the iPAQ's chip definitely supports stereo). Then, put a super-thin speaker in the back (the loud kind). Redo the buttons by putting better, e1xx/game-boy-style buttons (but ones that use the same electronics). Put a better quality sidelight in. Put more RAM in (PPCtechs or whatever has RAM upgrades for the iPAQs up to 256 MB, maybe you could work with them for drivers and stuff, maybe a joint venture!). Put more flashROM in (if you can find away to make it work like the new iPAQs). Put a higher-powered battery in instead of the one that's currently in it. There's an expansion-pack that adds USB and VGA-out, but that's basically just jacks, the actual interface is on the Toshiba and ATI chips. You should be able to fit that in in the bottom, instead of in the expansion-pack. Put a better 802.11b antenna in it, or the option of an external one. If it has bluetooth as well, do the same thing for that. Try to find a way to increase power on the IR-port. Provide an external serial-port adapter that's small (or even integrated). Wire the CF connection towards the back of the unit to allow for an optional and easily-accessible PC-Card adapter (There are drivers in the e740 for PCMCIA accessories, I checked.). Put a mini-switch in the side that gives you the option of turning up the speaker's gain (there's a mod to do this on the e1xx units, so I don't know if you can do this with the e740 as well). That's about all I can think of, unless it's possible to re-wire the connection to the ATI chip and increase the bandwidth from 8-bit to 16-bit (highly unlikely!). It may be possible that you can drive other LCD displays in the e740, if they use the same signal-types and power requirements. If the power-requirements are more, you can always mod it!
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Postby Robotbeat » Feb 8, 2003 @ 4:24am

If you can't find a way to do stereo audio-in, then at least put in a mono-in jack! Have a little switch so that you can use the microphone if you need to. That is my rather simple suggestion. It's something that I've asked for for years! Audio-in! Why not? Do it!
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Postby James S » Feb 8, 2003 @ 4:44am

I personally want PPCTechs to figure out how to integrate WiFi or Bluetooth into an iPaq and other PocketPCs. If they could integrate a WiFi chip into my iPaq (with a switch to completely disable it) then I would pay good money for that. Especially with SyChip's integrated RF technology they could get WiFi, Bluetooth, and FM on a single chip with seperate antennas to operate all of them at the same time if need be.
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Postby Robotbeat » Feb 8, 2003 @ 4:49am

The thing is is that most of the stuff that I mentioned probably would work. In fact, a lot of it I could do myself. I build computers for a living, too, you know :wink: ! My dad knows a lot about computers, especially on the electronics end... he used to service computer CPUs by replacing the transistors (obviously before they were chips)! He has been around awhile... and good at soldering. But whatever. I make it sound like I'm in elementary school... I guess those people are right when they say that once you move away from home, your parents seem to "magically" get smarter!
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Postby Robotbeat » Feb 8, 2003 @ 5:02am

Yeah, if they can get the drivers for the new ATI imageon 4000 or even an imageon 1000 (the current one) that has more bit-width and integrate one of them into the e740... that'd be sweet. The e740 (Bluetooth+WiFi version) is already the most expandable PocketPC. It's just the Xscale and ATI chip holding it back. But the ATI chip does have some advantages... really, it does!

BTW, e740s are pretty popular. I have seen 2 other ones on my college campus, and no other PPCs (well, except my other PPCs... ;) )! I haven't even seen that many Palms, either. But having integrated WiFi is good because we have a WiFi network, here. Anyways...

Yeah, the optional USB and VGA-out expansion pack (only like $25 after $50 mail-in rebate), integrated CF2, integrated SD/MMC, integrated WiFi, and optional integrated Bluetooth make this device more expandable than any other. By far. Basically, if it had a little better screen (I really don't mind the screen) and a good enough video chip for the Varium developers :x . That's all. Besides that, this device is almost perfect. But those things are a pretty big deal, but not so much in my opinion. Different people have different needs. And more money :wink: .
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Postby hockeydude » Feb 8, 2003 @ 5:06am

This would be really awesome if you get this to work! Just make sure it has a really good battery. If my Maestro had a better battery, I would call it a perfect PPC...At least in my opinion. It could also use a little more ram, but that really doesnt matter much since I store all my stuff on my 256MB CF card. But over all it really is a great Pocket PC! I looking forward to seeing pictures of this thing when it is finished..or some drawings or something! :D
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Postby randall » Feb 8, 2003 @ 6:00am

Do you think you could push enough power through the IRDA port to turn it into a LIGHTSABER? Dood, do you know how freakin' awesome that would be?
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Postby sponge » Feb 8, 2003 @ 6:02am

If randall gets a lightsaber, then I get an EZ Bake Oven in mine.
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Postby Al Simmons » Feb 8, 2003 @ 6:22am

hey guys things are doing really well, i just came back from compusa looking at some stuff i could buy to help with my pocket pc righ? And then all of a sundden i looked at the boxes they had in the displace case and i noticed a e-125 brand new in the box so i asked the manjor about it and he said it was there for 3 years so he sold it TO ME FOR 40 BUCKS!!!! It's almost as though some one wants me to build this so there just giving me parts lol! Ill probley have some drawings in soon and a few pics buy this week. Im still not sure about a few things so tell me what you guys think.
Should i use the the 3.5 screen (to presever more battery)
or the 3.8
should i use the cf 1 slot , the cf 2 slot or the sd slot
Casio style buttons or a 568 style
pocket pc or pocket pc 2002 ? (im just kidding about this one - im just put this in to joke about that guy who made that post about which is better pocket pc or pocket pc 2002 lol) thats good for now thanks for all you help who knows if this really works , and they go in to the production ill give you all one :) happy gaming guys!
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Postby Al Simmons » Feb 8, 2003 @ 6:24am

oh and i forgot theres an easy bake oven cf card and im thinking about putting in a light saber that comes out of the ir port. :twisted:
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Postby Robotbeat » Feb 8, 2003 @ 6:25am

Use the e125 buttons, if you can. Heck, use the e125's screen, if you can! That'd be horrible battery life, but awesome display crispness! Just kidding. Your device wouldn't be usable in sunlight, so j/k.
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