some questions...

[Paul]

[Diego Cueva]

no, I ask that because my map is still only 10% done... I wonder how much will take to compile when it´s done!

[Paul]

in that case it'll take a long time

[Diego Cueva]

oh yeah.......

[Diego Cueva]

It will get big too. (it´s 1mb right now...)

[Diego Cueva]

oh great! now it´s taking 188 secs.

[randall]

102 seconds is a long time, but that may be because your map is large. Certainly on an P3800 it'll compile way faster than mine.<br><br>I don't think there is anything you can do about long compile times.<br><br>xid, when mapmaking there is a difference between a good map maker and an excellent map maker. A GOOD map maker makes his maps LOOK good. An EXCELLENT map maker makes his maps RUN good.<br><br>Here's the real deal: it doesn't matter how good it looks, if the map doesn't run good, too. It will be unplayable and nobody will spend the time to admire your work.<br><br>Here's an example of where I started with DM Museum: <br><br>This is the Sin engine, and most of those screenshots are around 300-400 wpoly. I knew there was no way in hell I was going to be able to achieve anything ilke that with pocketQuake. Even getting the map to look like that with WinQuake/glQuake would be a chore. You can't tell from the screenshots but there is semi-transparent glass all over the place.<br><br>For anyone who has played DM Museum, you know that I had to eliminate alot of details in order to make it playable. Look at the difference between the maintenance/duct areas <br><br>

[randall]

BTW, I'm thinking about making that Sin Map into a virtual museum displaying some of my work. I've already slimmed the engine core down to 3 megs and expect the entire download to be around 5 megs.<br><br>Basically, viewers won't need the Sin game to run it, since it will be built in.<br><br>This virtual museum will be different than anything seen before, since it will allow you to wander around and even go into the maintenance areas.

[Diego Cueva]

Yeah, my map is big Randall. Very big. It actually uses the whole grid of World Craft map window... I just wonder how am I going to optimize that stuff. ugh! <br><br>Last modification: Diego Cueva - 07/10/01 at 12:17:05

[Diego Cueva]

yep, thats a cool idea Randall.

[randall]

That's big alright. Remember, if the file gets too big, it won't be very playable on the pocketPC. PocketPC has a finate number of resources, because unfortunately Microsoft doesn't divide the resources by zero to make them infinate. <br><br>For real, not everyone is willing to dump all their files to play a map. I was thinking that 600K-700K was getting too big. So that is something to think about.<br><br><br><br>

[Diego Cueva]

Yeah, I know. But this map is more like a project, a concept map, you know, I wanna see if I´m good enough to make a really cool, big and smooth map... <br><br>Last modification: Diego Cueva - 07/10/01 at 12:27:00

[Diego Cueva]

------------<br>new bug post<br>------------

[xid]

Yeah my map is too big for pocketquake, it was running slow before and now when I upload it to my ppc tonight with all the stuff ive added today im sure it will be so choppy it will be unplayable the size of it is 884K.