QuakeOn Development

[Paul]

Now we're starting to use mods and extra maps it would be a good idea to make for Pocket PCs.<br><br>I can send out the eVB version but it needs a few files to run and cant search pak files for maps (just directories) yet<br><br>Can ANYONE make this in C?

[Paul]

Any ideas on how to get the working for newbies?

[Paul]

And what about searching Pak files for maps?

[999]

Hah, that's cool.<br><br>We could do one in flash and put it on the site <br><br>It'd be pocketPC compliant as well <br><br>

[Paul]

Right, so it'll be done in flash... can we run Flash files in the program itself?

[999]

I have no idea.<br><br>I was simply referring to having that head walk newbies through the install process of PocketQuake and mods <br><br>

[Paul]

Dan, whats the deal with accessing pak files in c? quakeon has a maps feature which scans pak files for bsp's with valid player start points - how do you think thats done?<br><br>i just remembered a while ago i uploaded this pic:<br>http://www.btinternet.com/~pocketquake/quakeon.gif<br>Last modification: Paul - 04/26/01 at 05:45:34

[Dan East]

Now you're getting a lot more complex. The source file common.c in Quake contains the code to open a pak file (among a whole lot of other things). Your QuakeOn program will be further complicated by the fact that Pocket Quake supports gzipped pak files. When I add in more advanced pak compression for better performance (ala Pocket Hexen) then it will get even more complex. <br><br>Do you just need to find the existance of a particular file in the pak file, or do you need to open the file as well?<br><br>Dan East

[Paul]

well, i found the code i need in visual basic (the vb source to quakeon is available) i just need to convert it to c and add the front end<br><br>oh yeah, i need to check for .bsp files so they get listed in the maps listbox<br>Last modification: Paul - 04/26/01 at 07:47:13

[Dan East]

Okay, so to search for .bsp files, you will need to examine:<br>[pre]<br>/quake/id1/maps/*.bsp<br>For each enumerated pak#.pak file:<br>  /quake/id1/pak#.pak/maps<br>For each enumerated pak#.pak.gz file:<br>  /quake/id1/pak#.pak.gz/maps<br>For each enumerated Storage Card:<br>  /Storage Card [#]/quake/id1/maps/*.bsp<br>  For each enumerated pak#.pak file:<br>    /Storage Card [#]/id1/pak#.pak/maps<br>  For each enumerated pak#.pak.gz file:<br>    /Storage Card [#]/id1/pak#.pak.gz/maps<br>[/pre]<br><br>Officially, Quake will stop searching for pak files in a particular directory if the numerical sequence is broken. For example, if you have the following pak files in a dir:<br>pak0.pak<br>pak1.pak<br>pak3.pak<br>the pak3.pak file will not be recognized by Quake since the pak2.pak is missing.<br><br>It would be far easier to reuse the C source for accessing pak files found in common.c, then to try and translate the VB back into C. After all, the Quake C source is where the VB author got the algorithm in the first place.<br><br>Dan East

[Paul]

one more thing. how could i add a memory bar indicator like the one on wisbar? <br><br>i have to keep adjusting my memory settings before i play quake so it'd be good to include a way of adjusting it from quakeon

[Diego Cueva]

I don´t know not about programming , but it would be great to have QuakeOn for PPC

[999]

What about nixing most of the bells and whistles and just making a simple launcher. Either one which can generate a shortcut for you, and add it to a pulldown list for future use, or one which comes with a base set of shortcuts listed. Users could then add future shortcuts to a defined folder and have it show up in the pulldown menu.<br><br>I mean if it's a matter of convenience, I'd settle for just the basics.<br><br>

[Paul]

the problem is i have no idea how to make it in c, i'm just collecting info on what to put in it, i'm just waiting for one of you to actually offer to make it <br><br>my vb version could be modified to do that but you'll all need a few more runtime files to run the damn thing

[Paul]

How many files are needed when a vb prog runs anyway? <br><br>If i include the option to run quake with command line parameters i get a 'cant find pvbdec.dll' error (thats the declaration dll) i've tried copying it from my desktop pc but it still wont work