Love the South?

[Brig]

How does that disprove the South being a shithole?

So let me get this straight, five out of a eleven southern (as you defined them) states show up on the bottom? Shitty. Especially Alabama (which isn't on the list, but I lived there).

In reality, eight of those states are considered part of the south. The exceptions being Wyoming and Nevada.

I think one only needs look at the statistics to see how the region is weak when compared to rest of the US.

As far as energy consumption is concerned, your analysis is ridiculous. One can see that you're really trying to find something to grab onto. If you live in a hot or cold climate, you're going to be running your AC or heater. Those take up a lot of electricity.

There's not even an argument to be made on your side. When your own data works against you, you know it's a lost cause.

As far as making societal generalizations, you should take the dictionary and look up the term . If I can make subjective judgment about the quality of a culture, I can also make one about the whole society. If you don't get it now, I don't know what to say.

[Andy]

I said the AC usage jacks up the power consupmtion, not that they're scarce in the south.

I'm not defining southern as only states in the confederacy, but I'd definatly say that states that were in the confederacy are southern. Except maybe Virginia -- I know they like to talk about their southern values and shit, but that's a stretch. Still, your list contained a lot more than "at most 5" southern states -- there were 5 core confederate states alone in it, plus Kentucky, Nevada, and Oklahoma.

Monster.com isn't a perfect or definitive source, but it's not entirely useless either. When a city the size of Mobile only has a handful of positions advertising on the biggest job site on the web, it says something about the area.

Florida and central Texas are anomalies of the south.

Florida has it's huge tourist attractions and whatnot. (Consequently?)It has many cities on par with anything in the north.

I'm not exactly sure why some areas of Texas are flourishing so much in the tech sector -- it could be political, societal, or maybe just random. It's hard to say. That's just kind of the nature of the tech sector, there were (and to some extent, still are) lots of untapped emerging markets in the tech sector with virtually zero entry barriers, low startup costs, and large returns.

Out of curiosity, I wonder what % of Florida millionaires, or their immediate ascendents, hail from and/or still live up north. If I had to guess, I'd say Florida's success has more to do with the Northern influx of money than anything internal.

[Maf54]

[chuck]

[Andy]

[jongjungbu]

Actually, Mobile is not the largest metro area. Birmingham and then Montgomery.


But you can what you want. My only suggestion is, either graduate from high school, go to college, or get another degree. Then come argue with me. Until then, it is nothing but bigotry. Plain and simple.


JJB

[Brig]

It'd be bigotry if the hatred was targeted towards all things southern. But why should I complain? You're the one who has to live there.

I'd suggest you read a few books on logic and invest in a dictionary. In the latter case, you might have to leave Alabama to find one that isn't a "picter" book.

Your belief that your "9 years of post-secondary education" makes your reasoning superior. If indeed it were, you wouldn't have impaled your argument on your own statistics.

I don't remember anyone saying Mobile was the largest metropolitan area in Alabama.

[jongjungbu]

[Brig]

[Caesar]

[sponge]

[Andy]

[Brig]

This data is far better than the data JJB posted. It reveals the whole picture, rather than just government outlays.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/ff/taxings ... pdate.html

Backing up my original statement that the south gets more money than it deserves (a statement different than the words JJB tried to put in my mouth).

[Caesar]

Data is relative like an opinion, how can you be certain that what you use is the truth?

[Brig]