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Pay for two seats if you take up more than one?

Should large people pay for two seats if they take up a full seat?

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Pay for two seats if you take up more than one?

Postby Cameron » Jun 20, 2002 @ 6:58pm

<I>By Jon Herskovitz
Reuters

DALLAS (June 19) - Passengers who are too large to squeeze between the arm rests of Southwest Airlines Co. seats will be charged double for flying the low-cost carrier, the company said on Wednesday.

The Dallas-based airline, which does not have first or business class sections with larger seats, said the policy has been in effect for some time but will be more strictly enforced beginning next week.

Starting next Wednesday, its ''people of size'' policy will require passengers who need seat-belt extensions or cannot lower the arm rests on their seats to purchase two seats if they are flying on a plane near or at capacity.

''If you consume more than one seat, you will be charged for more than one seat,'' said spokeswoman Beth Harbin.

Harbin said that under the existing policy, fewer than 1 percent of Southwest passengers have been asked to buy a second seat, which is offered at the same rate at which the passenger purchased their original ticket.

Southwest seats are 18-3/4 inches wide.

When the plane is not crowded, a larger passenger can apply for a refund for the second seat, she said.

Southwest said that about 90 percent of the letters it receives on the issue have been from passengers complaining that their seating has been encroached upon by larger neighbors. The airline said one of the top complaints it receives are from passengers who say they were ''sat on'' during their flight.

Fat activist Marilyn Wann, author of the book ''FAT!SO?,'' said airlines should provide seating that accommodates people of all shapes and sizes who are paying for a trip.

''You are buying passage from point A to point B. You are not buying real estate,'' Wann said.

SENSE OF FAIRNESS

David Stempler, president of the Air Travelers Association, said that airlines have had an informal policy for years of encouraging larger people to buy an extra seat.

He said the topic will likely gain greater attention as Americans grow fatter and airlines try to keep seats narrow to comply with federal mandates on aisle size and their own need to pack passengers on planes.

The extra seat policy is not unique to Southwest. American Airlines said the ''purchase of an additional seat will be necessary for customers whose bodies protrude extensively into an adjacent seat,'' while other carriers have formal and informal policies on the extra seat requirement.

Stempler said he supported charging certain people for two seats out of fairness to other passengers and the potential safety concern of having people of size shoehorned into a small coach seat.

''If people are taking up two seats, they ought to pay for two seats,'' Stempler said. ''They are really impinging on the sense of fairness.''

Southwest was sued eight years ago on the issue by a larger passenger forced to buy a second seat and the case was dismissed, Harbin said.

The airline said the move to more strictly enforce the policy was prompted by its decision to stop giving out its trademark plastic boarding passes on a first-come, first-served basis to passengers at its departure gate.

Southwest, which does not have assigned seating, is starting to dispense paper boarding passes instead in an effort to cut waiting time for customers who have to pass through more stringent security measures after the Sept. 11 attacks.

The new boarding passes, which are given out at Skycap counters, ticket gates and at departure gates, provide an opportunity for Southwest workers to show greater discretion in enforcing the people of size policy, airline officials said.

Morgan Downey, executive director of the American Obesity Association said his organization is considering lawsuits against the carrier for a policy he called highly subjective.

''They are packing us in like sardines and they say it's our fault that their seats don't fit the traveling public,'' he said.

Reuters 18:21 06-19-02</I>

Personally, I think they should have to pay for another seat if they take up that much room. Sunday, when I was coming back to the states from Australia, I was sitting next to a woman whos folds went over the arm rest.
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Postby David Horn » Jun 20, 2002 @ 8:33pm

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Postby sponge » Jun 21, 2002 @ 12:20am

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Postby Paul » Jun 21, 2002 @ 1:37am

big brother is brilliant. i dont wanna get into all that "psychological" rubbish but i find it entertaining to watch people do normal things.

thats why its nice in the library. seeing people talk then one leaves and the other guy gives 'em a dirty look that only i've seen. haha. very good.

i'm gonna end up like woody allen if this goes on.
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Postby Warren » Jun 21, 2002 @ 1:49am

I don't exercise or regulate my diet in the least, and pig out all the time. I stay thin because of my high metabolism, but I still think that fat people are just lazy. OMG, I get nauseous when I see a fat person's hand that is so fat there's no nuckle or joint lines, it's just riduculous. How can people stand to do that to themselves? Over 60% of Americas are overweight, that's just sick. When I was in Japan, THE ONLY OVER WEIGHT PERSON I SAW (besides Sumo wrestlers, although I didn't see any) WAS AN AMERICAN TOURIST!!! NO ONE in Japan is overweight. Stereotypes make Americans think that other countries are fatter, like Germany, Switzerland, and the Ukraine. Yes, I heard Jay Leno say "what's bigger than a whale Kev? A Ukrainian woman!" Is the "American Dream" to be a fat ass? OH OHH!!! I just remembered!!!! I saw Oprah once, about spouces that aren't attracted to the other spouce!! There was this guy that said his wife is just too fat, and he's been avoiding her. She was like 300+lb, and then she lost 150lb, so now she looks good, and now the husband spends time with her, but she said "I don't know why my husband avoided my when I was of excess weight, and now that I look good to him, he can't keep his hands off of me". She argued that she was the same person then than now, and she pretty much made her husband admit that. Then Dr. Phil said "you know what? You weren't the same person, you were a fat ass, and generally, fat people act much more stubborn, bitchy, uptight, and just overall mean. It's mostly caused by insecurity." Dr. Phil was getting pretty pissed at that bitch. It is true, I see it too, fat people are more bitchy, some aren't. I know this really huge fat ass that isn't mean at all, but I know a ton others that are just so snotty. Fat people just do gross me out, just like how they do to Jadam. I view them as just pigs, not caring about themselves, and just too damn lazy to do anything about it. Bruce Valanch, he's just too funny. Fat people can be really funny too. I KNOW!! Fat people that can't admit their fat are mean, and people that admit they're fat, and make fun of it are hilarious! Louis Anderson, Bruce, that fat guy from the old show Win Lose or Draw, he's so hilarious, and so many other hilarious fat people.

And here's a story: back 'bout 6 years, I was in 5th grade. My teacher was Miss O'Malley, and damn was she hot! I mean, she was so hot that my dad actually wanted to go to parent/teacher night!! Yes, she was that hot. Note the was. A few years after, she became the Dean of Students, but something personal happened to her. She became depressed, and went to food to calm herself. Now she's the fattest grossest chunk of lard on Earth. Sad really, I don't how she is today, damn was she hot :cry:. I didn't really know it when I was in her class, hormones didn't kick in yet, but looking back, she was the hottest teacher I've ever had, and remember, this is Massachusetts, over half of the teachers are 21.
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Postby Paul » Jun 21, 2002 @ 2:06am

the other side of that is the really fat people who are extra nice because no-one will talk to them otherwise.

the fattest girl at college (who we call fat smoker, coz well... you know) takes up at least two of those computer chairs you guys are sitting on - probably more as the fat rolls over the sides...

shes smokes like the pope (haha, well she smokes a lot) and waddles along and takes ages and breathes hard coz shes fucking dying with her big lard ass and her bleached hair and oh fuck i'm gonna barf, dude!

jesus: sweet!

*paul barfs*

jesus: eww... dude...
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