North Korea

[Kzinti]

Why is it that the US gets blamed when people don't like what the UN does but also gets blamed when we don't follow the UN? :cry:

Why is the US dismissing the UN when other nations don't agree them and use the UN as an argument when other nations do agree with them?

A: Human nature I suppose.

[Maf54]

Human nature I suppose.

You mean Canadians aren't above human nature? *gasp*

[Kzinti]

You mean Canadians aren't above human nature? *gasp*

Why do you say that?

[Jadam]

You mean Canadians aren't above human nature? *gasp*

Why do you say that?

I think he's trying to say.


"Welcome back down."

[Brig]

Notice the tongue smily face, Miracle. I was making a joke. Jadam's list caught me in that way.

Now about this right to privacy, thing. Why do we have that? I suppose I agree with that perspective, but let's flesh this out a bit more. What about my existence, as a human and as a member of a society, shows that I have a right to privacy?

What about your existence shows that you have a right to anything?

These truths are self-evident, but unfortunately people often miss the obvious.

[James S]

Like the fact that my thoughts are private and I can choose what to say or do.

[Kzinti]

I think he's trying to say.
"Welcome back down."

And you both failed miserably.

[Jadam]

I think he's trying to say.
"Welcome back down."

And you both failed miserably.

Im confused, We both failed? What did I do?

[Miracle]

Ohhhh, bold move, Jadam .

[RICoder]

I saw a sign over a desk at an unnamed agency in the U.S. once...it said "In God We Trust, all others we monitor" I always liked that.

Spying and diplomacy often get confusing because there are people who like to ascribe personality to entire nations, and as a result provide them with rights like an individual. Nations don't have basic rights like a person, that is why there is international law.

Yeah, a right to privacy would be nice for nations as a whole, but you'd have to rely on all nations being equally honest and trustworthy, which they are not.

Miracle, you don't trust the U.S., so wouldn't you want someone out there monitoring it to ensure it is not doing EBIL things?

Beyond that even so-called friendly nations spy on each other. One of the most notable spies caught in the last 50 years was spying on the U.S. for Israel! It happens.

This whole line of conversation is hilarious, becuase those on the side of NOT spying are from the same camp who get pissy when intelligence is not perfect and we didn't "see it coming" You can't have it both ways.

North Korea is a destabalizing threat, and even China recognizes that. Fortunately they are also inept, so we have time to fix it diplomatically. Any nation who would sacrifice everything for its military needs to be watched, since it is most apparent that it is not doing so for peaceful reasons.