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Why all the first p.shooter doesent macht J.548??


Why all the first p.shooter doesent macht J.548??

Postby silicium » Mar 25, 2001 @ 12:41pm

I am not a programmer, but i doo wonder why <br>all the first person shooter in the Net available, like: Quake, Doom .. are not playable<br>for the Jornada 548. There are a lot of people owning a 545, 548 and we whant the games. Please hurry i'm starting to think about changing it to a ipaq.
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Re: Why all the first p.shooter doesent macht J.548??

Postby Moose or Chuck » Mar 25, 2001 @ 3:42pm

Jornada's don't have the horsepower to run these processor intensive tasks. The fastest Jornada PocketPC runs an SH# processor at 133MHz, and SH# processors don't benchmark well anyway. The slower speed of the processor is a big difference, but the processor itself wasn't designed as well as StrongARM or MIPS processors. S-ARM would be the best of the processors, it performs floating point calculations at an incredible speed. MIPS is close behind because of its fast Integer calculations and excelent direct drawing capabilities.<br>I can see why you want these games, but how much fun would they be anyway? There's no D-Pad on the device so movement would be even more difficult than it is now. If you wanted to play games you should have thought before you bought.Last modification: Moose Master - 03/25/01 at 12:42:51
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Re: Why all the first p.shooter doesent macht J.548??

Postby Dan East » Mar 25, 2001 @ 10:00pm

Well, the number one reason that a Jornada version of Quake is not available is that there is an SH3 specific bug, perhaps related to memory alignment, that needs to be resolved by dubugging on an actual Jornada. No programmer owning a Jornada has stepped forward to do that minor debugging to isolate the problem. If I knew where the problem ocurred I could most likely correct it. I have had a couple of non-programmers volunteer to attempt a debug, but I have not had the time to write out a step by step set of instructions on what they need to do.<br><br>Another reason there is little Jornada support (game-wise) is that it represents the lowest denominator of the primary three Pocket PC hardware types (iPaq / @migo, Casio, HP). Being the slowest (benchmark-wise), and not having a gampad, will always put it last on a programmers to-support list. HP, I guess through their infinite marketing wisdom, has tried to portrait the Jornada as a down to earth business machine, and not a gaming device. Hence their goal has been reached, and they are being left behing in that area.<br><br>Dan East
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Re: Why all the first p.shooter doesent macht J.548??

Postby Moose or Chuck » Mar 26, 2001 @ 3:14pm

Dan likes rewording my posts to sound smart :D.<br>But Dan, my brother has a Jornada that I may be able to use, and I have fiddled with the source. I might be able to help, but since my brother is never home I don't know if I could get the Jornada from him. Do you think this would be worth it or am I not well versed in C enough to make a difference (I'm not) ?
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Re: Why all the first p.shooter doesent macht J.548??

Postby Karl » Mar 26, 2001 @ 3:48pm

How you know, i doo have an hp548, if i could help to fix the bug's i would love to make some experiences. I am not a programmer but i'm a Engineer and i think that i am a skilled user and i am able to solve user problems like a Superuser in a company.<br>So let me know if i can help. Here my email. silicium@bluewin.ch
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Re: Why all the first p.shooter doesent macht J.548??

Postby Dan East » Mar 26, 2001 @ 4:00pm

Basically you need to sync the Jornada with your PC, build an SH3 debug version, let it download, then hit F5. I need to know the source file and line where the exception occurs.<br><br>Dan East
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Re: Why all the first p.shooter doesent macht J.548??

Postby Moose or Chuck » Mar 26, 2001 @ 5:34pm

Uh huh. I doubt I'll be able to get the Jornada from my bro, but If I do you'll be the first to know.
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Re: Why all the first p.shooter doesent macht J.548??

Postby Dr. Phat » Mar 28, 2001 @ 7:24pm

do, the extra "o" is not necessary my bro (not moose, karl
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