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Little known but very good games

Postby Matthew » Oct 31, 2002 @ 7:39am

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Postby another guest » Oct 31, 2002 @ 8:19am

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Postby Matthew » Oct 31, 2002 @ 11:09am

Hmmm...never heard of it. Is it true? Got a link?
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Postby sponge » Oct 31, 2002 @ 1:50pm

Don't mind another guest, WarcraftCE doesn't exist, and is vapourware.

[edit]Oops got the name of the (fake) product wrong.
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Postby Michael Y » Oct 31, 2002 @ 4:22pm

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Postby SiGen » Oct 31, 2002 @ 11:12pm

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Postby James S » Nov 1, 2002 @ 12:17am

Probably because it was an April Fools joke.
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Postby SiGen » Nov 1, 2002 @ 12:32am

i dont remember with accuracy when i read that.
Was i fooled? :P

Anyway, i hate April Fools day :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Postby kaboomie » Nov 1, 2002 @ 12:54am

The reason is that Nethack and Angband were not designed for a commercial success.Here is why. Most (if not all) commercial titles are designed with "positive emotional feedback" in mind. That means they limit amount of frustration you get while playing the game. When you play Baldur's Gate or Diablo, the worst thing that can happen to you - you die (then you reload and try again). If you survive you can restore your powers back to normal in no time. Graphics is flashy, controls are simple. However, that takes a toll on role-playing experience you get out of the game. Nethack is less forgiving. First of all if you die - you die (you cannot reload and continue). Second, there are tons of keyboard commands you need to learn to play the game. Third, a lot of nasty things can happen to you in the game: your weapons break, armor rusts and rots, items get cursed, you lose your intrinsics, you get robbed, you starve, you choke on you food, you get electrocuted, freezed, burnt, paralyzed, blinded, polymorphed, stoned (in both senses), etc. If you end up naked deep in the dungeon - it is almost certain death. It takes guts to overcome the frustration, pull yourself together and play on.

Nethack provides more hardcore role-playing experience than commercial RPG will ever offer. It comes with the price though - you need to be hardcore role-playing gamer to enjoy it. :wink: Same goes for Angband, ADOM, Slash'em, etc.
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Postby esw » Nov 1, 2002 @ 1:33am

That's why it would be cool if we could run Exult on our PocketPCs; Ultima 7 is an excelent rpg. Anyone can enjoy it, what with the beautiful graphics and music. And, the gameplay is a perfect balance between 'hardcore' and fun. It's hard to explain.. you just have to play it.
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Postby Mechcommander » Nov 2, 2002 @ 12:59am

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Postby esw » Nov 2, 2002 @ 4:16am

Colourless from the Exult team was/is working on it.
I believe the main issue is that exult uses C++ exceptions which need to be removed. He said it's "slow boring work".

Other than that, it would be a perfect canidate for a ppc game. Graphics are 320x200, it uses SDL which is already ported I think. Only other issue I can think of is it has MIDI music, but one could probably whip up some sort emulation like in scummvm.

Oh yeah, their website is
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