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Die Commie Pinkos! ........ [creationism v. evolution]


Postby vince_mad » Jan 17, 2005 @ 12:59am

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Postby sandmann » Jan 17, 2005 @ 4:07am

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Postby sandmann » Jan 17, 2005 @ 4:11am

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Postby Chris Edwards » Jan 17, 2005 @ 6:45am

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Postby Theodoric_of_York » Jan 17, 2005 @ 8:52am

Let me start by saying I do NOT believe in any gods. I do not believe in them the same way I do not believe in the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and the Boogie man. However, I DO believe that Jesus of Nazareth's philosophy of life, namely love, forgiveness, and compassion, is possibly the greatest roadmap for living your life ever put on paper. I also feel that those who believe have some advantages over those who do not. Imagine if everyone felt that they could live forever in paradise if they practiced those three tenants. I wish I believed but I do not. I could say much on this subject but I hold back somewhat.

As for the textbook stickers, what a bunch of crap. Why not put a sticker on that says "Gravity is just a theory, approach it with a critical mind." I know, I know, "gravity has been tested more". Well the thing about evolution is that it takes a long time, we can't observe it all at once. Same for geology, who can prove that plate tectonics can create mountains? Do we need a sticker for that? I could cover a science textbook lousy with stickers about theories that are not complete and cannot completely explain things, or that could stand mode observation and experimentation. Why evolution only? Because it offends religious sensibilities.

As for Intelligent design. To paraphrase (correct me if I'm wrong): The existence in nature of irreducibly complex biological systems poses a powerful challenge to Darwinian theory,They appear to be designed.

So because we can't say A led to B, B led to C, and C led to D, ad infinitum, we should say "These systems were created by God"? Someone tell my why saying "Since individual cells, being made of delicate materials do not fossilise, we cannot see how they changed over time." does not make much more sense.

Lastly, I find humerous those that take great offense to "Attacks" against their religious beliefs. Religion has attacked science vigorously and without mercy for many, many years. This does not apply to all as I have seen many thoughtful comments by believers in this thread. To them I would say "Take solace in your faith, and congratulations." For the non-believers I would say "read this."
Perhaps I've been wrong to blindly folow the medical superstitions of past centuries. Maybe we barbers should test these assumptions analytically, using a "scientific method". Maybe this could lead the way to a new age, a Renaissance! Naaaaahhh!
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Postby Bjorn Keizers » Jan 17, 2005 @ 11:50am

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Postby James S » Jan 17, 2005 @ 5:33pm

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Postby sandmann » Jan 17, 2005 @ 6:29pm

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Postby refractor » Jan 17, 2005 @ 9:35pm

Just so you know where I'm coming from, too, I'm an atheist. My wife is a Christian (Church of England - it's protestant or whatever). We were married, by a vicar, in a church. I even said God (though I did ask the vicar if it were possible to remove it..).

The problem that seems to rear its ugly head with religious people and me, is that they think I'm missing out on something by not being religious. Whether it's just the general day-to-day "God is with us" stuff, or the more fundamental (pun intended) "you're an atheist so you can't have any morals" clap-trap.

I'm not missing anything, and something that's inherently wrong is just inherently wrong. I really don't need a religion to tell me that. Honestly. :)

Oh yeah and the "you're an atheist so you must be an anti-theist" thing. I'm an atheist, you can think what you like. :)

People interested in the general Atheist view should "find" (they're about on p2p networks) a BBC series called:

<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/atheism.shtml">A brief history of disbelief</a>
and
<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/atheism-tapes.shtml">the Atheism tapes</a>

"God only knows the true nature of God - all the rest of us are just guessing."
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Postby RICoder » Jan 17, 2005 @ 9:48pm

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Postby vince_mad » Jan 17, 2005 @ 10:28pm

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Postby sandmann » Jan 17, 2005 @ 10:31pm

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