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Quake 3 is not way off...


Re: Quake 3 is not way off...

Postby randall » Apr 16, 2001 @ 11:49am

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what a piece of shit PocketPCs are, since they have dedicated hardware and a shitty selection of games.<br><br>I own a Gameboy, and so far the selection and quality of games is far better than the selection of PPC games. So I would expect the Advance to follow suit. Before PocketQuake came out, I used a gameboy emulator to play something... ANYTHING... that contained a shred of replay value.<br><br>I own a Playstation 2. So shoot me.<br><br>I'm sorry, but I am still waiting for ANYONE to show me an existing PC game that comes close to the intensity of Metal Gear Solid 2. This might require some of you to actually pull your head out of your ass long enough to go try a PLAYABLE DEMO. Then you'll have something to gauge it by.<br><br><br><br>
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Re: Quake 3 is not way off...

Postby SonicSilicon » Apr 16, 2001 @ 1:22pm

It's truly amazing how encapsulated in one platform's domain certain people make themselves. I don't own a Mac, and I've never particularilly liked them, but I'll still use one if the software I need and or want to use is on it. Same thing for any type of computer - palmtop, console, desktop, or otherwise.<br><br>It's a shame that such a mass of people put their heads in the sand like that all the time. These are the people that will buy a Palm because they never thought to ask what other PDAs so or if there even are other PDAs. They've bught a PS2 for $1000 at Christmas for their kid(s) without asking their kid(s) what they want or realizing the games the kid(s) will play are on the GameBoy Color. Or they'll buy one console for themselves without realizing the games they'll play have equivelants for the Palms they bought, and could be had for cheaper on a platform they can take with them. And then they'll only play the latest highly hyped games for their console, despite how  little they understand or care about the game. They'll buy an Internet Appliance saying "wow, I can't believe how cheap this is since it's such an easy to use way to get on the Internet." Then they'll wonder what all the fuss about the Internet is when they can't watch video, go to half the sites out there because they're browser can't handle them, and why everyone sends these large e-mail attachments that do nothing.<br><br>The truth is the average consumer doesn't know what to consume, how to find out what to consume, or how to consume it properly. It's a major part of the reason we've become disposing consumers. We don't know what we really want so we'll just buy the first pretty thing that catches our eye. Then we spend more time and effort getting rid of what we've found out is not good enough for us. I admit, I've done it myself many times, but I know better now. And this whole problem could be lessened through the use of the Internet if people learned how to research. It's more than plopping a term in a Search Engine. It's comparison; correlation; collection of related data. This is what they should be teaching kids in school to do with the Internet. Instead almost every single one of them uses it the same way; IM; e-mail; surfing for entertainment. We should be entering the golden age of information, not the golden age of hear-say, gossip, parotting, and media thought adjustment.<br><br>Why is it that my town's High School tries to teach our students how to think, but got put on academic probation because our school library was too small (that was just one point) despite their being two public libraries as well as a college library. We don't have a lrage town, so that's a lot for us. So now we have a nice big High School Library, but our computer lab is outdated. (The desktops are 6 years old now, which wouldn't be a problem except for the now tiny 800 MB harddrives. Moose has more than that for his PPC!) And now there's going to be a $30,000 per year Athletic Trainer (not an actual staff member) paid for by the school, instead of athletics, while our band has had a cut in funding and won't have a place to march for two years because they're fixing the athletic fields. (Band is co-curicular, which means it must meet during school and don't have time to go someplace to practive marching. Don't worry about the football team, they can meet after school, at out Middle School's fields, since their extra-curicular. By the way, band is an actual course with a grade and credits.)<br><br>Wow . . . what a rant. I'm sleepy now so . . . zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......
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Re: Quake 3 is not way off...

Postby randall » Apr 16, 2001 @ 2:14pm

I don't know who the hell would buy a PS2 for $1000. We paid normal retail in early December.<br><br>I playtest EVERY single game before buying. This goes for PC games as well. Only an idiot would buy a game on hype alone.<br><br>There are even stores that have PCs set up to test games- Virgin Records, Wizards of the Coast, Software Etc. So there isn't much excuse for poor game choices anymore.<br><br>I playtested PS2 for a month before buying one. And just like my original Playstation purchase, the PS2 proved to be an excellent gaming machine. (it should be- that is it's designated purpose)<br><br>So once again Moose, step up to the plate and SHOW ME A FUCKING GAME THAT KICKS ASS OVER MGS2!<br><br>Otherwise shut the fuck up.
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Re: Quake 3 is not way off...

Postby Chris Edwards » Apr 16, 2001 @ 2:22pm

I bought Halflife without testing it first... but i guess that's different....<br><br>I also bought my laptop without trying it first.. i guess that's the dis-advantage to e-commerce.<br><br>But, i guess that's what 30-day money back's are for.
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Re: Quake 3 is not way off...

Postby randall » Apr 16, 2001 @ 2:51pm

I didn't even buy Half-Life without testing it first and it won a million game-of-the-year awards. I finally bought it a year later when the prices finally dropped.<br><br>You must have at least played around with a demo of your laptop before buying it. That is quite a purchase to be doing blindly.<br><br>Speaking of over-the-top hyped games... let's discuss Chopper Alley. I can only assume they named it that because the framerate is so choppy.
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Re: Quake 3 is not way off...

Postby Jaybot » Apr 16, 2001 @ 9:22pm

I'm working on (um, that is, playing with) Chopper Alley right now, and yes the framerate is a bit choppy.  But, if you play with the settings a bit, I'm able to get about 10-15 fps on my casio at 180Mhz.  When it's running like that the graphics look okay (shitty) but it is still playable.  The biggest problem I've been having, is actually trying to figure out what the hell I'm supposed to be doing in half the missions.... anyway, there should be a finished review of this on friday. peace.
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Re: Quake 3 is not way off...

Postby killzat - mark » Apr 16, 2001 @ 9:35pm

Tell me about it =), I've been trying to review it for PG as well and have the same problem. While beta testing Sven clearly never bothered to listen to my gameplay suggestions.<br><br>Physically finding out what you're supposed to do and where you have to do it is the real problem with CA. No wide-range radar, just fly around until something looking like an enemy comes up - bah.<br><br>I'd like to score it highly, but I feel it's a pile of poo.
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Re: Quake 3 is not way off...

Postby Moose or Chuck » Apr 16, 2001 @ 9:48pm

I'd tend to agree. I'm sorry I spent the time to download the demo of it.
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Maybe it's integrated into the motherboard

Postby David R. » Apr 16, 2001 @ 10:53pm

Has your brain ever thought that the chip(s) may be integrated into PocketPCs Motherboards? and if it were on CF , you can always make the accelerator to have a CF slot in it, and it could also be in MMC format too you know. but whats the point of cool mega-system-resource-eaters on your PPC when you can also settle for 2D games, how did people survive 1994, the SNES era, eh?<br>;-)
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Re: Quake 3 is not way off...

Postby Dan East » Apr 16, 2001 @ 11:21pm

Putting the 3D acceleration onboard would be a step in the right direction. However, this would even further increase the disparity between the various devices. A programmer should not have to bend over backwards to provide universal support for SH3, ARM and MIPS devices. Even now we have to tweak this and that to get all three devices going, even though there is supposedly no difference between from the programming API standpoint.<br>My biggest concern would be that this could turn into a proprietary mess. A game should not have to target a specific make and model of Pocket PC, which is what would happen if a standard was not created for this new hardware. <br>Finally, it's apparant that Pocket PC makers (HP and Compaq specifically) have not exactly went out of their way to make their devices good gaming platforms. HP has totally shunned gaming, and will not even put a D-Pad on their device (which is extremely useful for apps of all kinds, not just games). Compaq engineers screwed up bad choosing a button controller that could not handle simultaneous keypresses. Even the new 64 MB iPaq supposedly has the same problem. So it is obvious they didn't lose any sleep rushing to correct that problem. The iPaq's D-Pad, the 4 buttons, (in addition to the the reset button and the hard reset switch) and their controller IC is all on a small board that is seperate from the rest of the unit. It is easily swapped out as a unit. It would be very easy to modularly correct this problem, or to begin embedding a better controller on that board.<br>My point is that if HP and Compaq can't even do those little things, which are very fundamental to gaming, then why would they place an expensive chip onboard that would be used 90% for gaming applications? I doubt even Casio would support such an idea.<br><br>Dan East
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Re: Quake 3 is not way off...

Postby Paul » Apr 17, 2001 @ 1:06am

Two Words, Jaybot: Game. Gear.<br><br>'Newbie'? What's going on here? Is this punishment?<br><br>Anyways... you've convinced me I was wrong... but I still think GBA is dodgy<br>Last modification: Paul - 04/16/01 at 22:06:28
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Re: Quake 3 is not way off...

Postby Diego Cueva » Apr 17, 2001 @ 1:09am

The "newbie" title is becouse of the number of posts you have. With 50 posts you get to "member", like me ;D<br><br>Diego Cueva
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Re: Quake 3 is not way off...

Postby Paul » Apr 17, 2001 @ 1:11am

So I've gone from 'Junior Member' to 'Newbie'? That's a step DOWN methinks
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Re: Quake 3 is not way off...

Postby Diego Cueva » Apr 17, 2001 @ 1:23am

I dont think there is a "Junior Member" status in this forums... You go from "Newbie" to "Member". (uhmm wasn´t it "Junior Member" to "Full Member"?) uhmmm. I´m confused.<br><br>Diego Cueva
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Re: Quake 3 is not way off...

Postby Paul » Apr 17, 2001 @ 1:29am

I'm not that bothered now anyway... just a few more posts to go
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