Major Terrorist Attack on USA

[RICoder]

Moose,<br>  You proceed under the false assumption that it is "easy" to get the stuff.  "easy" to contain it without killing yourself accidently.  "easy" to transport it.<br>  This is not even close to the case.  What do you think you can do, drive up to USAAMRID and go through the drivethrough to pick up a bag of Ebola?  No, better, go to Africa and find where it starts (which no one has done in 20+ years of looking), and scrape it into a baggy?<br>  This isn't stuff you can pick up at KMart, like fertilizer.

[Moose or Chuck]

It's called a forecast. It's a cast of the weather before hand: fore-cast. Before it happens, you know those, right?

[RICoder]

HAHAHAHAHAHA!<br>  HOHOHOHOHOHO!<br>   HARHARHARHAR!<br>    OK.

[Luciano U. Werner]

Moose, come on,you know weather forecasting sucks.<br>Trust us, it's not that simple. Why do you think we never heard of the use of bioweapons? And chemical weapons (in theory, much more simple and cheap) was only "oficially" used was on a civilian population in Iraq (against the Kurds)?<br>It's too complicated to obtain samples, reproduce the germ, transport and worst of all, deliver over your target. It's tougher then rocket science.

[RICoder]

^--- What he said

[Dan East]

An excerpt from . I'm quoting it because that page changes constantly.<br><br>Poison from the Air?<br>Alleged Hijacker Repeatedly Asked Questions at a Crop Dusting Airfield, Witness Says<br><br>Sept. 23 — A suspected ringleader in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on America repeatedly visited a crop dusting airfield in Florida, asking lots of questions on topics including how many chemicals a crop dusting plane could hold, according to a witness. <br><br>Federal authorities fear the suspect's presence at the airfield is another indication the terrorists may have planned, or still may plan, to use crop dusters to launch a chemical or biological attack.<br>Crop dusters near the nation's 30 biggest cities have been grounded since Sept. 11, and police also are stationed near the crop dusting airfield the suspect, Mohammed Atta, apparently visited in Belle Glade, Fla., as recently as the Saturday before the terrorist attacks.<br><br>In addition, Zacarias Moussaoui, under arrest as a material witness and detained since August, was found with a crop dusting manual in his belongings, ABCNEWS has confirmed.<br><br>"Things like anthrax spores are easily transported, easily put into a solution that could be dispensed out of a crop duster," author and U.S. Navy Commander Ward Carroll said.<br><br>More than a dozen men including Atta — a suspected hijacker believed to have died on a plane that smashed into the North Tower of New York's World Trade Center — repeatedly visited the Florida airfield, said chief pilot Willie Lee, who identified Atta to the FBI.<br><br>Atta was "very persistent about wanting to know how much the airplane will haul, how fast it will go, what kind of range it has," Lee said. "The guy kept trying to get in the airplane and there was nobody there but the ground crew. Everybody had gone. And he said that he just had to run him away from the airplane because he kept trying to get on the wing, wanted to get inside the cockpit and so forth." <br><br><br>Dan East

[Luciano U. Werner]

Dan, it's one thing to use a chemical or biological weapon as a terrorist would, and it'sa whole new ball game in the front lines of a war. What me and Ric said above was in reference to their use in a theater of war.<br>Against a city, as a terrorist's weapon, of course it coud be done. The easeist way would be to contaminate a city's water supply (botulism would do that nicely).

[RICoder]

[Addendum to Luci's post]<br>My oppinion of theater-level use is already stated, see the previous post for more details.<br><br>Additionally I feel that the media is overstating the probability of a chemical/biological attack by a terrorist.  My reasons are based on other statements I have made.  The media is all about flash.  The statements they make are conjectural for the most part.  I wanted to rent a UHaul last week, and was pissed when there were none left.  Does that mean I wanted to make a fargin' truck bomb?  Nope.

[Luciano U. Werner]

The media IS NOT a good source of reliable information on a critical matter like this. Not even when there's less tension in the air, imagine now.

[RICoder]

That is because the media is made up of fucking losers who are to scared to do anything but talk about what they don't understand.  They are a bunch of whinney liberal bastards that spew propaganda and try to pass it off as news.  I hate the media.<br><br>As if noone could tell.

[Luciano U. Werner]

No, I think the anwser is simpler: they want to make a buck on people's ignorance. It's easier to draw people's attention if you use some bs that people would like to believe rather then the dull truth.<br>Yes, I have a grudge with the media too. Anywhere you go, they're the same bastards.

[Dan East]

Moose was talking about how the terrorists may try and use such agents, which is what the article I posted refers to. That article IMO is not inflating the issue it all. Our government grounded crop dusters around our 30 largest cities, not the media. The terrorists had crop dusting technical manuals and had scoped out the actual hardware. Again, the media isn't making that up. Now granted, various fools get on the news and blow things out of proportion, but as far as this thread is concerned, and the articles it refers to, it has all been pretty accurate. Whether or not the terrorists can come up with anything worthwhile to spray out of a crop duster is another issue. The fact that they were looking for a mechanism to disperse a liquid over a very large area would certainly seem to indicate that they actually have, or at least have in mind, an particular agent to deliver.<br><br>On another topic, each time I type the word "Terrorist" I feel like I am giving them more credit than they deserve. Someone needs to coin a new term to use to talk about these criminals. Soldiers aren't called "Killers" or "Conquerors", even though that is what they are supposed to do. Hence a terrorist shouldn't be called that. Are you in "terror" over what happened? I'm not, neither is 99.9999% of the US.<br><br>Dan East

[RICoder]

Ideas for new term:<br>Fuck-head<br>Bastard<br>Camel-fucker<br>hmmm....not very nice of me.<br><br>Seriously though,  I would say "murderous rogues" is fairly descriptive.  Eh?<br><br>On the crop dusting thing...I still don't buy it.  I don't think they can pull it off.  But, I've been wrong before....WAIT....NO I HAVEN'T!  :)

[Dan East]

Here's a  summarizing Biological and Chemical weapons.<br><br>Saboteur is a pretty accurate description. Or, "cult-inspired saboteur".<br><br>Dan East<br>

[RICoder]

So, basically, the first 3 Q/A's in that article back up everything Luci and I have been saying.<br><br>Thanks Dan.<br><br>Politically Correct Name : 'Morally and Culturally Impared'