religion, again.

[Warren]

[James S]

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[Paul]

[James S]

[brendan]

[brendan]

[James S]

[Warren]

Moose, evolution does take extremely long, but it really works in spirts. If there is an extreme environmental change, then the organisms will evolve to fit the change very quickly, when there is no change, evolution is very slow, so evolution is not linear. As for going from fish to man, it went fish to reptile to mammal to man. A lizard and a fish are similar, and there are fish with real lungs that can walk on earth. The evolution chapter in my biology book was really good, it even showed how bacteria evolved from natural organic material made from lightning and atmospheric matter. Evolution is slow, the Earth is 4,500,000,000 years old, while organisms have been around for 1,000,000,000, and most of that time was just bacteria. When bacteria evolved into eukaryotic cells, they quickly were able to make the first multicellular organism, and evolution exploded. Small animals started appearing, and plants were common (conifers and seedless vascular, along with bryophytes). After a few hundred million years (which is a while...), dinosaurs were abundant (there were some vast extinctions even before the dinosaurs, mostly of plants). The dinosaurs were around for a really long time, then BOOM! 65 million years later, we're here, because the mammals survived the cold (warmblooded), like the mamoth and sabor tooth tiger. After more evolution, people came. You say "well, how can a human come for a monkey?" well, how can a bird can from an amphibian? Speciation is very diverse, all thanks to evolution and Darwinism. It isn't hard to make a new species, look at the Galapagos Islands, all new species because of geographic isolation.

As for evolution being "guided", it's not complex, why do we have fingerprints? Because people way back that didn't, would be able to hold stuff, so they didn't survive as well.

Evolution does take a long time, think, we've only been here for 20,000 years, but organisms have been here for over a billion! That's 50,000x longer! A lot of things happened before us.

[James S]

[brendan]

As quoted:
Moose, evolution does take extremely long, but it really works in spirts. If there is an extreme environmental change, then the organisms will evolve to fit the change very quickly

mmm, in a word, no, this is not evolution its called "natural selection", for example in a forest there are butterflys, black, grey, white etc because there is a variety of tree colours, they can hide well. thus avoiding birds etc, there is a fire, the tree are all "chared", now only the black butterflys can hide, the whites and greys get destroyed, becuase of this all new offspring are black, since black butterflys on have dns information for "black", this is not evolution, infact there is a loss of data, not a gain....

same with bears for example, why are polar bears always white, becuase there the only ones in there species that can live in colder weather, and not because there white either "natural selection"!

BTW moose the above site also hs some good information on how these people come up with huge figures like millions of years. they have tonnes of articles on how inacurate carbon dating is, not to mention the others!

[James S]

But the whites and greys don't start having black offspring. The white and greys go extinct or become endangered unless they're smart enough to find a new way to hide or there's a mutation in the species, such as becoming slightly poisonous so things won't eat them.

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[brendan]

It's on topic!, sort of!

Yes moose, the white and greys cant have black off spring, same as people (except is very rare cases where the DNA information is "damaged" in both parents, i.e there was a couple in the UK (indian), that had white children, (albeno I think). but this is rare, normally if there is damaged DNA in one parent the DNA in the other complensates, thats why you dont marry you cousins etc, because it's likly you will both have the "faulty" peice of DNA, thus having children with problems.

In most cases things just die.... there are rare cases where DNA mutations have helped, but the bottom line is there still a butterfly etc, i.e they dident evolve into somthing else... dns mutation is always a loss of data, not a gain (basis of evolution), there is not one documentated case of somthing "Gaining information - DNA". There are mutations but, like in haemoglobin (blood), it has over 300 mutations, none are useful but, i.e sickle cell anemia.

[TechMage]